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#11826 2012-06-20 00:17:58

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any idea malice?


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#11827 2012-06-20 04:51:35

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As I said: if you hear something about an "LA rumor", it's probably not true.


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#11828 2012-06-20 14:52:12

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New Orleans trades Trevor Ariza and Emeka Okafor to Washington for Rashard Lewis and the #46 pick.


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#11829 2012-06-20 17:28:30

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The #46 pick is very much a "who cares", but shifting those to salary-beasts is huge.  Why the hell would the Wiz do this!!??

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#11830 2012-06-20 22:30:41

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From what I gathered from the comments at Bullets Forever, the Wiz are attempting to put a more competitive product on the floor to try to keep fans happy, John Wall in town and try to build a better culture.

One commenter put it this way: Instead of adding players in FA in the upcoming offseason and next, they've added Ariza and Okafor. Essentially, those two are the FA acquisitions for the next two years.

I'm not sure Ariza and Okafor were the best ways to go about it, but I can definitely see what the Wiz are trying to achieve. Helps remove some doubt from whether Blatche will get amnestied or not now, too... can't see why they wouldn't.


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#11831 2012-06-21 00:31:18

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They could win 35 or so but I don't see them really pushing for a playoff spot. They improve in the short term but piled on a lot of money long term. I like this a lot for the Hornets. I don't see anyway Gordon isen't back now.


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#11832 2012-06-21 04:13:21

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It's an awful move.  Taking on an additional $30 million in salary to put Okafor/Ariza.

And whilst it's a good move for NOLA, I'll hesitate to make any proclamations other than "good move".  Capspace is HIGHLY overrated.  Tho' I do agree it probably means they have the wherewithal to sign Gordon now.


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#11833 2012-06-21 05:41:10

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malice wrote:

It's an awful move.  Taking on an additional $30 million in salary to put Okafor/Ariza.

And whilst it's a good move for NOLA, I'll hesitate to make any proclamations other than "good move".  Capspace is HIGHLY overrated.  Tho' I do agree it probably means they have the wherewithal to sign Gordon now.

Cap space might be overrated, but what about cap relief? Okafor and Ariza are expiring right around when tax teams are going to be considering salary dumps... maybe the Wiz are onto something here?


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#11834 2012-06-21 05:47:54

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Also happens to be right around when Wall will be considering FA - perhaps a plan is get better in the short term to keep Wall (and fans) happy and then making a trade when better pieces become available to take the team closer to contender status. If teams dump good but overpaid players to the extent some are predicting, it might end up being a solid plan... plenty of talent to be had if you're willing to overpay for it. And I'm guessing if Leonsis is willing to spend $30 mill on this trade, he's willing to burn cash.

I'm probably wrong. But if this is their plan then they're pretty well ahead of the curve... GSW is the only other team I can think of off the top of my head that took on seemingly unnecessary salary. Any others?


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#11835 2012-06-21 08:00:54

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You are attributing a helluva lot of nous to Ernie Grunfeld, something I have seen neither hair nor hide of in his years as a GM.

And talking about "expiring"... they lost $13 million over the next year, and took on $42 million over the next two.  That does not seem particularly bright, nor indicative of any plan at all... other than a mad scramble to try and keep their chins marginally above water.


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#11836 2012-06-21 18:50:15

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I'm not saying Grunfeld's a genius - but if I can come up with a plan like that, and if I have an owner behind me willing to burn cash (which Leonsis apparently is) then you've at least got to consider it a possibility.

Maybe every GM in the league has had a similar idea, but lacks a willing owner?

I think the key thing is Okafor and Ariza won't be your Eddy Curry, Raef LaFrentz expiring contracts - they'll still bring something to the table. So a team that trades for them in a couple years won't be getting pure cap relief - they'll be getting at least some help, too.

I think it's an interesting possibility. Maybe not likely - and given the likelihood of failed franchises continuing to fail, your scenario is probably a lot closer to reality - but I like to maintain the notion that some GMs know what they're doing.


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#11837 2012-06-26 19:20:52

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Indy Star reports that it's rumored that Larry Bird is going to step down as president...


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#11838 2012-06-26 23:08:57

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Indy Star reports that it's rumored that Larry Bird is going to step down as president...

Am I the only one surprised by this? I had the impression he was going to be around for the long haul.


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#11839 2012-06-27 19:57:12

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Yup.  I was shocked.  Leads me to believe that "something happened" - either in Bird's private life, or some clash within the front office.


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#11840 2012-06-27 23:46:18

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Isn't he leaving for health reasons?


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#11841 2012-06-28 03:17:54

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That's the story.  Not sure if I'm buying tho'.


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#11842 2012-06-28 12:06:59

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Bird should know better than to pull the same excuse for retiring twice.


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#11843 2012-06-28 20:53:26

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A question: who would you take, the Celtics' Big 3 in their prime or the Miami Big 3 in their prime?


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#11844 2012-06-28 21:53:07

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pguard9 wrote:

A question: who would you take, the Celtics' Big 3 in their prime or the Miami Big 3 in their prime?

That's extremely close. KG in his prime was the best player in the NBA. I would probably go Boston by a hair just because I don't think Chris Bosh deserves the right to be part of a big anything and Pierce,KG and Ray in their primes could all ball.


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#11845 2012-06-28 23:22:41

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danny220 wrote:

pguard9 wrote:

A question: who would you take, the Celtics' Big 3 in their prime or the Miami Big 3 in their prime?

That's extremely close. KG in his prime was the best player in the NBA. I would probably go Boston by a hair just because I don't think Chris Bosh deserves the right to be part of a big anything and Pierce,KG and Ray in their primes could all ball.

I think the Miami Big 3 in their prime have more talent than the Boston Big 3 in their prime, but the Boston Big 3 would be a better working unit and would be a lot easier to build a team around.


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#11846 2012-06-29 08:55:52

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Far more overlap in the Big 3 of Miami.


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#11847 2012-06-29 09:23:46

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#11848 2012-06-29 22:07:43

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So the Lamar Odom trade is complete.
Clips get Odom, Jazz get Mo Williams, Mavs get a trade exception, cash, and Tadija Dragicevic, and Rockets get Furkan Aldemir.


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#11849 2012-06-30 14:01:39

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KG reportedly will be back with the Celtics next season.
Miami is making a run at Ray, and he seems to want to play for them, too.


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#11850 2012-06-30 15:51:23

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pguard9 wrote:

KG reportedly will be back with the Celtics next season.
Miami is making a run at Ray, and he seems to want to play for them, too.

Yeah KG.  Feel like Ray going to the Heat is a slap in the face to the Celtics organization.  I understand it's purely business, but the Big 3 have formed such a strong bond over the past 5 years.


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